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5 hours ago
Kant VS UPB
Kant is nearly incomprehensible, but my understanding of the rationale for his Categorical Imperative is:
If there exists an "ought" that applies to all persons and actions in all places at all times, then this universal "ought" (categorical imperative) must be universalizable, by definition. Therefore all actions must conform to the principle of universalizability.
Thus his first formulation of the CI: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."
How is this not UPB?
Stefbot did not help, so I watched the Big, Chatty Forehead himself: https://freedomain.locals.com/upost/2634493/an-introduction-to-ontological-morality-kant-vs-upb to find out, but found no adequate explanation.
Stef's arguments are:
1 - Kant is a hypocrite for exempting the state from the CI.
But, by Stef's admission, this is not an argument.
2 - Kant doesn't answer the question "why be good?".
But he does. The answer is because you are a rational agent. To create a universal rule while exempting yourself is a condradiction, which is irrational.
3 - Kant is writing a "diet book for skinny people" because only people interested in morality will care for his argument.
But this is true of all moral philosophy, including UPB.
These arguments neither refute the CI itself, nor identify how it differs from UPB.
Since Stef is the greatest philosopher of our time, and I am just some random guy on the internet, I suspect Stef is right and I am wrong. Can someone help me find my error so I can stop being wrong?
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